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TRSL A: Debrief Survey Project

Something REALLY interesting was…Working with new people whom I have not previously worked. I also found working with Survey monkey quite interesting because there were so many different ways of organizing the information.

The strengths of a fixed format survey include…being able to analyze the information and correlate it with other information. Basically, I feel the results may be easier to work with.

The limitations of a fixed format survey include…not being able to get as much detailed information from the respondents. We could have asked deeper questions. Also, I would have liked a larger sample size – this was not a limitation from the fixed survey; however, it was an overall limitation.

To address this limitation…we could have had a larger sample group and asked open-ended questions. Overall, a pilot study would have been highly beneficial.

The nature of the EdD 6 community was interesting in that our survey either showed the community was very similar in many respects or very eager to please. The nature of the leadership in our community is shown to be cohesive; however, just as in any community there is always room for improvement. I think we can still improve on promoting equity in the classroom and in our work places.

Hi Everyone, Monday, October 11. I did not contribute anything last week. However, this week I will enter my contribution to TRSL A (Items 1-8) by Friday. It has been a difficult last week, (i.e. midterms and physical therapy). I am walking without the senior citizen chariot. I can walk short distances without any aid. I use a cain for long stretches.
 * Robin -(Thursday evening-Novmeber 11) TRSL C-contributions for: **
 * 1) week 10/11 from chapter 6-//Organizational Culture// (pp. 175-219): __Changing Culture section__ -p. 207, Hatch argues a modernist approach can control culture by managing norms and values. This sounds like the modernist approach is a belief in a dominant western ideological stance as the universal norm and behaviorist approach to socialize group members of an organization to assimulate to the domiant culture that understands culture as behavior. Hatch also argues that the symbolic-interpretive approach can manage culture through symbols and artifacts. This sounds like the symbolic-interpretive approach is also a belief in a dominate western ideological stance that understands culture as artifacts. My issue with Hatch is that her understanding of culture seems to represent the typical dominate group perspective. Does it make a difference which organization theory informs ones approach to an organizations cultural change if one's ideological stance on culture represents the dominant's groups perspective? **
 * 2) week 10/25 from chapter 8-Organizational Power, Control, and Conflict (pp. 252-292):__Critical Studies of Power and Control section__-p.273, I agree with Hatch's assumption that gender is not just concrned with biology but is constructed within a socio-cultural and socio-political context. From this perspective, organizations and organizing are gendered process that control and marginalize women and other minority groups. Can we also have an assumption of culture as human development constructed within a socio-cultural and socio-political context? And if so, then why not consider a multicultural organization development theory as an alternative to a dominant groups perspective of organizational theory? **
 * 3) week 11/1 from chapter 9-New Directions in Organizational Theory (pp. 325-341): The Paradigm Wars, Revisited section-pp.327-328, I agree with Hatch that modernism is the established dominant ideology of organizational theory. However, her section on multiple perspectives falls short in my mind. How can new directions in organization theory emerge if the organizational theory does not value cultural knowledge that is not from a dominant ideology stance on organizational development? **

== Today is Wednesday, October 6. I created a page titled "Report TRSL A (Items 1-8)" but for some reason the link on the left does not open it. I will e-mail Vivian, but until then you can access the page by clicking *Manage Wiki* on the left, under *Content* click *Pages*, finally the Report TRSL A (Items 1-8) page is available to add your content. ~Naomi ==


 * Robin -(Thursday evening) TRSL C-contribution for: **
 * 1) week 9/20- Hatch-chapter 1-//Concepts and Abstraction in Theory Development// (pp. 8-10)- Insightful information on the distinction between constructing concepts and abstractions. Helpful information on how our brain conceptualizes and abstracts meaning from our experience. This process of communicating with concepts and generalizations (process information) is a necessary skill we will need to develop as theorist. **
 * 2) week 9/27-Hatch chapter 6- //Changing Culture and Dynamics of Organizational Culture// (pp. 207-210) -The whole idea of manipulation and control of culture witin an organization-hmmm . . . . Some questions: 1) Who is doing the maniupulating and controlling? ; 2) What is their self interest?; 3) How ethical is it to assume human culture can be controlled and maniupulated ....?; What is the power relation between those in power who control and manipulate others? **

Robin- (Thursday morning) I reviewed draft of survey and consent letter. Looks marvelous! I thank you for all of your contributions. I also sent an email to everyone with a few reflection notes. . . has anyone come across the assigned chapter (from Gareth Morgan) for project circle related to TRSL-C preparation work. . .?

ShelRae - Jill and I took the questions posted here and created a rough draft of the survey. I will post the whole survey in the Draft Questions section; however, Jill is fowarding it to all of you (I do not have your emails) as it will most likely not look right on this. Let me know what you think. I will send this to Vivian tomorrow (Thursday) night. Thanks.

ShelRae (Wednesday night) - Christine, Jill forwarded me your letter (I never got a copy), and it looks great (Jill and I are on the phone now working on this). I will use the questions that have been posted on this cite and type up a rough draft (and bring copies too).

ShelRae - I am confused. By this weekend, we need to have a rough draft of our survey and copies of it. It sounds like you all have great ideas, but I cannot see where we have decided on anything or know what exactly our focus is going to be. I see a bunch of different ideas, so I am not sure what's going on. I submitted the other info to Vivian last week, and she replied - I posted it here; however, she also replied in a general email to everyone. I am more than willing to type anything or put something together if we know what we doing. Have we decided what our focus question is going to be for sure? I was hoping to work on this tonight.

Robin-hey CM, my interpretation from reading the TRSL C and matrix x 2 is that we 1) post x 2 our understanding of assigned Hatch readings---chapter 1,2,3,4 and 6; we share at least one or two concepts from the reading or a term(s)/concepts that were confusing to us and need clarification . . . and 2) share in small groups - here is where I am unclear, share in wiki space or this weekend in person-->" identify/co-construct major insights and connectioins about how the three typologies are connected to impact, and/or related to community and change in an organization". . . (see: TRSL-C under Process #2)

Robin-hey Naomi-I thought about Promote Equity and Social Justice too. . . I learned how to do a google alert today from the good people at Hamline's library. . . I wish I could explain how to do to others though. ..

(Naomi) I saw the e-mail of draft questions and possible google alert- I think we need to "schedule" a time to get all on-line or something. Robin I hope your dad is doing better! I'm honestly swamped and keeping up with these weekly postings for our project group and our learning circles feel like a chore. Please don't take it personal- you all are great, it's just hard to connect. We can do this, I recommend building off of the draft Robin composed- I do think it would be interesting to add the Promote Equity and Social Justice component along with the Building Community.

Rbell-I emailed a rough draft of survey questions connected to our tennative research objective to your hamline gmail accounts. I do not know how to add an attachment through wiki space. Jill would you email me your email address to rbell02@hamilineuniversity.com or rrbellsr@gmail.com thank you. . . stay in touch

CM - I am struggling with this as well. I am not sure where I am supposed to put what. I also discovered that what I posted earlier this week is not here anymore. (We don't have an assigned chapter.....just chapter 6 in hatch and chapter 1 in the other). Thank you Shelrae. Is there something specific we need to do before next weekend other than posting our question. Do we need to do the consent and survey questions? I would be willing to do either. My number is 612-243-1351 (home) or 612-817-3731 (cell)

This page is for updates and communication. Please go to the pages on the left for posting TRSL work.


 * (Naomi) Do we know our assigned chapter in Morgan for our project circle? I read on the assignment sheet for Weekend #2 that everyone reads Morgan Chapter 1, but then also an assigned chapter- could someone verify the chapter? Thanks!**

Hello, this is Robin- I discovered how to access home page (yeah for me and you). I will continue to post in wiki. I assume you post in the home page? I will also post in blackboard regarding upcoming TRSL B and GED weekly posting. I will post my survey questions for TRSL-A based on our objective question (see ShelRae) by Friday. We are moving along. My contact number 612-986-2819. Rbell

Hello this is Naomi- I am honestly confused about the wiki postings due. I'm looking at TRSL A- Research Objectives forum posting, I'll look in blackboard for this forum and for the TRSL B forum, and GED 8504 weekly posting...??? Someone feel free to call me at 651-334-8655- thanks! I'm catching on- thank you ShelRae for posting the objectives in BB and for e-mailing Vivian with the response below.

ShelRae: Wednesday, 9-22I am really struggling with this wiki. Sometimes it lets me on, and sometimes it does not. ARG!!!! Okay, this is what I have for the objectives. Please feel free to add and edit. We started with the question: How is the shared vision of the conceptual framework evident in the EdD 6 learning community? The shared vision of the conceptual framework are to (1)Promote Equity in Schools and Society, (2) Build Community of Teachers and Learners, (3) Construct Knowledge, and (4) Practice Thoughtful Inquiry and Reflection.

Objectives: 1. Investigate the impact of the conceptual framework in the EdD 6 learning community.

Robin suggested we break it down further with something like this:

This survey is concerned with Hamline’s EdD program effectiveness of facilitating learning experiences that builds community among the EdD learning cohort community. Let's chat, so we can get going on this. Talk to you soon.

SR

SR - Thursday

I emailed Vivian, and this is what I got back....

ProjectCircle6 Wiki -this morning I made everyone an organizer -you are in the wiki twice once using this email svedbraaten01@hamlineuniversity.ed and once as svedbraaten@haml, I think one of them should be deleted.

Objectives: Given the scope of the survey my recommendation would be to limit it to 1- 3 objectives, as the more objectives there are the more questions are required to address them. Research Question How is the shared vision of the conceptual framework evident in the EdD 6 learning community? I just want to check my understanding. The question in the TRSL is How do organizations reflect the values and goals of their members and the greater society.

To reduce the scope of the survey, which is a smart thing to do it sounds like your group modified the research question as follows: organization ---> EdD 6 learning community (as recommended by me) Values and goals ---> the project circle has made the decision to focus on the values and goals as described in the conceptual frame of the School of Education

Just let me know if I have captured the ProjectCircle's thinking.

Draft Objectives: 1. Investigate the impact of the conceptual framework in the EdD 6 learning community.

My recommendation would be to have greater specificity regarding what the ProjectCircle means by "impact", i.e. impact in a specific domain? affective, cognitive, in how the community is organized or its climate etc. These are only suggestions for how you might narrow the area of impact given the limit on the number of survey items.

2. Do you want us to break it down like this: This survey is concerned with Hamline's EdD program effectiveness of facilitating learning experiences that builds community among the EdD learning cohort community.

Not sure I understand what you mean by "do you want us to break it down like this" but my first thought is to try and get specific for the type of data you are looking to gather. In general here are some guidelines for Writing Clear Objectives

1. Focus each objective on one concept or idea 2. Do no use the word and. (Be careful --if one of your objectives uses and, it probably is really two objectives. 3. Tie each objective to the research question. 4. Demographic information is not one of your objectives. Thomas, S. J. (1999). Designing surveys that work! A step-by-step guide. Thousand Oaks, CA: Corwin Press, Inc.